Meredith's Husband: 0:33

Hey baby. Hey,

Meredith: 0:35

how you doing?

Meredith's Husband: 0:36

I'm good. How are you doing? I'm

Meredith: 0:38

well. Thank you listener. I hope you are doing well. Thank you for joining us again.

Meredith's Husband: 0:44

So we are off into a new year. I was I was thinking that one thing we never haven't really done so far is kind of explain who we are. Oh yeah, we've touched on it a little bit. But my feeling was that I kind of wanted to put information out there and let people listen to it and then decide, Oh, does this person know what he is talking about? Is he worth listening to, rather than be like, I am super fancy, and I do, you know, because I feel, I feel like anybody can put together an impressive sounding bio, you know, yeah, for sure, very few people actually have an impressive bio. No, very

Meredith: 1:21

few people check to see if even it's real true,

Meredith's Husband: 1:26

yes, but I know that some people were curious. Some of the initial feedback was like, Well, it'd be nice to know like, who you are. So I do want to, like, I wanted to cover that who is Meredith husband and who is Meredith? Oh, yeah. Okay. So I figured this is going to be, it's not going to be any SEO value here. So if you, if you want some tips on SEO, this is not the episode to listen to, listen to some others. And then when you're like, Man, this guy is amazing. Who is he and his wife and

Meredith: 2:00

his husband's wife,

Meredith's Husband: 2:02

then you can listen to this nice, nice. So let's Yeah, let's start with you.

Meredith: 2:10

Okay,

Meredith's Husband: 2:11

let's do your story first. And I think just kind of a brief, like, not super in depth, but kind of a summary of your professional life. So everything after college. So what were you What were you doing after you got out of college? What did you do?

Meredith: 2:29

I was an actor. I was a professional actor for the first half of my post collegiate years, and I did everything I did, Film TV,

Meredith's Husband: 2:44

theater you were in. You started in Chicago. I

Meredith: 2:48

started in Chicago. Yeah, I went to Northwestern, and I pretty much started acting professionally. My senior year, and it just then I acted in Chicago for seven years, doing films and little TV and a lot of theater and improv.

Meredith's Husband: 3:12

Then you got to be too big for Chicago,

Meredith: 3:15

yeah. Then I was so huge in Chicago.

Meredith's Husband: 3:18

You were named the Sexiest actress in Chicago, weren't you? Yes, she was, if you're listening,

Meredith: 3:28

yeah, um, anywho. Then I moved to Los Angeles for a couple years and did film some TV and then go back to Chicago and do some films, and then I moved to New York.

Meredith's Husband: 3:42

Why did you why did you leave LA, I was awful,

Meredith: 3:45

and I was really depressed and miserable, and I got cast enough show in Chicago, the Rose Tattoo playing Rosa the daughter at the Goodman theater, and everyone, a lot of people there were from New York. And everyone kept saying, Why aren't you in New York? You are such a New Yorker. You're miserable in Los Angeles. And I thought, oh, there's millions of mes in Chicago, in New York, but turns out they're not. So I moved to New York, where both of us currently reside, and did a lot of theater and soap operas commercials the whole everything. And then it got to a point where my husband told me that I was miserable acting and all along the way, I've done photography. I did photography starting in high school. I did it in Los Angeles. My friends started having babies, so I started photographing the babies. And my friends would say, you captured their soul. How did you do this? Can I hire you and can I blah, blah and

Meredith's Husband: 5:00

you as in case, in case people don't know. Life as an actor, you usually need some sort of side hustle, like something, yeah, some sort of job, yeah, because the acting is so even you uh, yeah, even if, even if you're like, a full time actor, yeah, in between projects, you're going to have months, yeah, doing anything so often. So in that time, I remember your, one of your friends, anyway, said, Oh, why don't you get a job waiting tables and and I said, That's stupid. I. Uh, why would you do that? Why don't you take, why don't you work on photos, do headshots, or, I don't remember my exact advice, but I remember thinking, that's really that her advice is awful, your friend,

Meredith: 5:47

yeah, yeah, that was awful. And also, you know, I was doing shows, and all the actors would put their headshots up, and I would have to go up to them and say, Could I please take your headshots, because that is not you. And so I started taking headshots and kids,

Meredith's Husband: 6:02

and I think that's kind of where you started to do it as a as a business. Yeah,

Meredith: 6:07

the headshot started to be a business. And then then I branched into kids, because that made me really happy. I really loved photographing kids and pets. And then there came to a point where you said, Meredith, you're miserable as an actor and you're really, really happy as a photographer.

Meredith's Husband: 6:27

I didn't say, I didn't say anything about photography, but you did, no, not, not, not when I said that, not when I said, I just said, you know, you're, you're pretty miserable, and I know a lot of it is just the acting industry, like there's daggers like around every corner, no matter, no matter what happens, even in the luxury suite, that's like, there's daggers around every corner. So it, and you certainly you don't have a horribly thick skin. I don't have any thick skin, which is needed in that world. And that's ironic,

Meredith: 7:05

because you need to be so, yeah, whatever the word is, have your pores all open, right? You can access your emotions and convey, create.

Meredith's Husband: 7:17

Yeah, just convey. It's a paradox. Yeah,

Meredith: 7:20

it is. It is a super paradox.

Meredith's Husband: 7:22

I just knew that you were, you were always getting these like crazy. You'd get audition. You get crazy knots in your back all the time, all these stress related physical symptoms, yeah, and it seemed like, yeah. I seemed like you weren't really aware of them, because you're, you know, when you're in a world, you're in it, yeah, sometimes it's hard to have perspective. And I was just like, I said, you know you're, you're pretty miserable doing this. And then I ducked for cover,

Meredith: 7:51

yeah, no, I do remember doing a law and order and I remember I could not move my neck or open my mouth during the shooting, yeah,

Meredith's Husband: 8:03

yeah, yeah, it's

Meredith: 8:05

a lot of stress, yeah, anywho. So then I the way, I guess I described it, was acting was my career and photography was my hobby, and they kind of just switched. So then acting was less of my main gig and it became a hobby. It didn't really become a hobby, but my photography career started taking off, and I eventually left acting, but it took about a year to mourn that, because that was my identity. Yeah,

Meredith's Husband: 8:45

I don't know if I took this into account when I told you you were miserable, but your photography had, you were making money from photography, so you didn't, you didn't, like, jump out of acting and have no income like you did start. You are starting to have a professional, yeah, yeah, photography, starting base, yeah, starting

Meredith: 9:03

Yeah. I was starting that, yeah. I don't, I don't remember, but I do remember thinking, Oh, you're just jealous. Because when I audition or something, I focus all my energy on that, and you want all my attention. And, yeah, I was convinced that you wanted all my attention. You

Meredith's Husband: 9:25

were that's why I ducked. I knew that would be the response. And that's not just you that seemed to me as an outsider, you know, going to events and knowing your friends, like, that's a very actor, actory perspective, of course, just, it's just like, you know when, especially when you're working, yeah, it's like, you are the most important thing in the in the universe. What you're doing is just infinitely important. And everything,

Meredith: 9:51

I think that, yeah, yeah. You really, you really. I mean, you have to, I guess, too, yeah, yeah, devoted and in your craft, no matter what it is, you have to feel that it's important and interesting and serves a purpose. Not interesting, but serves a purpose. But I'm certainly glad that I pivoted as they use the word, because right now, during covid, theaters are closed. It's really a lot of my actor friends are having a really tough time. Some of them are not, but some of them are having a really hard time. Yeah,

Meredith's Husband: 10:29

the entire industry just shut down for at least a year, didn't it? Yeah, and

Meredith: 11:13

then. I thought everything was going and then covid came back with vengeance. So everything's cancel. It's really, I mean, it's a tricky world for everyone right now. Yeah. And so is that it? I can't, you know, I can't really even remember,

Meredith's Husband: 11:27

yeah, I think that kind of bring that's kind of where, that's where you are now,

Meredith: 11:31

yeah. And I took lots of business classes and photography classes, Creative Live was super helpful. Tamara Lackey, Michaela Jade,

Meredith's Husband: 11:43

yeah, your your photography business now is doing better than I ever thought it would

Meredith: 11:49

me too. And you know what today, some clients that I photographed eight years ago. They were some of my early clients just reached out and said they were interested if I had availability in reserving some time. So that's really

Meredith's Husband: 12:08

great. That's always nice.

Meredith: 12:10

Yeah, no. I actually really love what I do, and it brings me so much joy. Makes all the difference the connection I have with my clients and my families. They're so lovely, and they're just wonderful people, and we really love each other. I mean, I really love them, and they tell me they love me. And I think one of the things I know, one of the things, just to wrap me up quickly, because this has got to be as boring as toast, that when I was an actor, it was really hard, because you're judged so much on your looks and this, and so much pressure on this and that the whole reason that I went into theater in the first place was it was love to me. Theater was love. It is it's where dreams and passions and hopes and energies and life happened,

Meredith's Husband: 13:12

and you bring a lot of your acting and improv energy to your photo shoots. Yeah, you really, you really play. You take on a different you're like a totally different person in your photo shoots. Well, I'm

Meredith: 13:23

probably more playful. I mean, it's, it's similar to the stage, where I always felt safe on stage, because it was always safer, like I never was self conscious. You know, it's just that is a safe place for me, and I could fail, and doesn't matter. You know, with improv, with improv, you have to, you can't be self conscious. You just have to go with whatever it is, you know, like if all of a sudden, you know, you're a piece of dust on somebody's shoe. That's what you embody, and that's similar with kids. Like I don't, I'll, I have no shame and no embarrassment. I don't care. I'll do anything to make people laugh and feel comfortable, right?

Meredith's Husband: 14:08

Yeah, that's invaluable. That's so crazy to me that your your safe space is on stage in front of 1000 people. 100% to me, that's horrible. No like, and

Meredith: 14:20

I remember being in Los Angeles and I hadn't performed, and I you feel sick like there. I don't know what it is that compels performers that need to perform. I don't know what it is. I made a short film about Ed Dixon, who's a fantastic actor, writer, musician, singer, perform, I mean, everything. And he talked about how acting is specifically in theater, and it's an exchange of energy. And I felt like I could on stage. I could open all my pores and and it's almost like you're floating. I don't know how to describe you. Just open your heart to the audience and that whole space, and you fill the whole space up and, and it's all you and what you're sharing with your co stars, and just the rhythm and it can be magic. I mean, to me, it's still kind of sacred. Is a weird word, but when it works, there's nothing like it, and it's similar to when you get a groove in photography, for me, when you're really connecting with a family, you're really connecting with these kids, you're just playing. And I always say I have no preconceived notions, and there's no one thing I do forever. I mean, a lot of photographers find that it's super helpful to have in their back pocket, which I think is a really good idea. These are some poses that we go through. These are some, you know, and I have probably a few of those, but it's more really just following the energy of the now,

Meredith's Husband: 16:06

it does seem that you, I never, I don't think I've never really seen you do improv, but that you did a lot of it. At one point, it does seem that you take a lot of that's what you take into your shoots, is you go into a shoot and you're like, whatever is going to happen, I'm going to do it 100% I'm going to be there. Yeah, I will Yes, and

Meredith: 16:27

yeah, for sure, seems to

Meredith's Husband: 16:28

be a big advantage. Yeah. Can we talk about me now? Yeah,

Meredith: 16:32

let's talk about you. So tell us your story.

Meredith's Husband: 16:37

I grew up on the other side of the country, and I hope

Meredith: 16:41

this that wasn't boring for people. I feel like that was not as exciting as boring stuff and facts and any hair.

Meredith's Husband: 16:51

I didn't, you know, I didn't find it boring.

Meredith: 16:53

Well, you're you married me, yes.

Meredith's Husband: 16:56

So, oh, as a reminder, we're talking about me now. Okay, sorry. So I went to college in San Diego, and I got out of college, and I just kind of did a typical, not typical, but I found a job at a, like a small company, was, like an investment firm or something. I didn't really know what I wanted to do, but, and you had done baseball in the back. I played baseball through, not through college, but into college. Halfway through college, pitcher I was, yeah, and that, for for me, that's similar to kind of where, like, your comfortable space on on stage, and feeling like, like you're every like you're filling the space, like, it's just a completely encompassing to me, that also

Meredith: 17:39

filling my space, like filling my heart,

Meredith's Husband: 17:42

and that's what I feel. It's a, it's a, it was a totally different, you know, experience. There are things I remember. I remember from, you know, by the microsecond I remember what was happening. It's crazy how time can slow down like that.

Meredith: 17:59

Yeah, yeah. And to me, having to be on a baseball field in front of 1000s of people is coming as my hell, my, hell, my, hell, yeah, because I'm afraid of the ball hitting and breaking my face.

Meredith's Husband: 18:13

Well, so was I so you know how to duck or catch it or hit it or throw it sporty. Now that I love that more than anything. It's, it's amazing, yeah, but, like, you can't do that. You know, there's no way I was going to be a professional athlete. I don't have the size, I don't have the skill, I don't have the mentality. That's pretty good. But I knew that wasn't going to happen. Gonna happen. So, like, midway through college, I stopped playing and focused on things like studying and other stuff. So I graduate, got that job. I got a job out of college, and I worked for a year a small company, not huge. I don't remember it all that well, but I remember thinking, wow, my boss is an idiot, like she is not fit, and I don't respect her, and I really don't enjoy just having to blindly do whatever she says, Whenever she says. I it that was just not for me. I do not like working for other people, and what I do remember is the so I quit, and I remember walking out of the office, that office on my last day, and into the parking lot and thinking, wow, I'm never gonna do that again. I remember having that distinct thought, like, I am never going into that situation again, which was pretty stupid and naive for a 22 year old to say, I am never work for another, another person again. Because, of course, I did, ended up getting, I did some traveling, you know, and finding myself and moved to LA. I ended up, actually ended up in LA. We were in LA at the same time. I know that's so weird. Oddly enough, I was also working in film, just as like, like a PA, and I actually spent some time as a production photographer, believe it or not, I think I had a camera and said I could do it. So somebody hired me, and then I was like, oh shit, I guess I need a camera now. So anyway, so I was there, but I didn't like LA either. LA is awful. Every LA is all about the business, yeah, and did not enjoy it. I was not inspired by anything that was happening in LA. So I moved to New York. I did. I got another job. I found a job working at an Independent Film Company, which was great. That was fantastic. That was so much fun as a job. That was so cool. But it was a small company, again, independent film companies either get bought up or they go out of business. Seems it's one of the other so that company went out of business, and I found myself on unemployment. So well, I thought that was,

Meredith: 20:57

oh, great, trust me, yeah, I think it's Yeah. I was like, Oh, I

Meredith's Husband: 21:00

can take some time, because I knew I wanted to start a business, but I didn't really know what I wanted to do. So I took the time like, Oh, I'm making a little bit of cash. I'm gonna try to start a business. And I didn't know, like, I said, I didn't know what I want to do. I. Build websites that when I like that, because that's one thing I did at that film company, and at that time, that was kind of a rare skill. Not, yeah, it's like 2002 or 2,300% it was totally different. There's no WordPress, there's no Wix or Squarespace. Like it was literally building a website. Was you would literally start with a blank screen? Was it all code? It was all code. There were a couple programs called Dreamweaver and Adobe's go live that helped, but it was I had to learn code, and I liked it, but it was difficult for me because I'm not a creative person, like, like you were saying, like, some people just need to create, they need to perform, they need to paint, they need to write. Like, I'm not that creative. Like, I liked creating websites, and I liked the psychology behind like, how is a person going to interact with this, and how do I get their attention and get them to do this versus that. I like that aspect, but it was very difficult for me to go back and forth between building a site, which for me, I had to really, I had to kind of gear up for the creative aspect of that. Go back and forth between that and also finding go out and network at business events and, oh yeah, pitch people and find my next website. Because you build a website, it takes a couple months and then it's done. You gotta have another one lined up. So I had a lot of trouble going back and forth between those two different mindsets, like being a, you know, trying to be creative, and then trying to be a business person. I can't. I'm creative, but not like

Meredith: 22:53

thinking out aside the box and Yeah, little things now, yes, I think you've become more creative over the years, or more in touch with your creativity

Meredith's Husband: 23:04

probably well, as a business owner, that it kind of is a benefit to be a little creative. But I don't have this overwhelming desire to write poetry like it. I'm not that. I'm not that kind of creative, right? So I started, I was, I was building websites, but then I also found that whenever I finished a website and gave it to somebody, their first question was the same thing. It was like, great. How do we get people to see this? Because there was no, there was no social that, like getting people to website was a toe was also totally different. Like, Google Ads was just starting, yes, but like, nobody really knew about it. Google was, was kind of emerging as the dominant search engine. And I had, I had one client who I was kind of pitching ideas to, like, this is how we could get people to see it. And he was like, Okay, I'll give you 500 bucks and see what you can do. And so that was right, that was like, right at the early days of Google ads, where you could buy clicks for, like, not five cents, but maybe 50 cents. And so he gave me 500 bucks. I think I probably kept, like, 100 bucks, yeah, and and spent 400 on ads. And not too long later, like in the next month, that guy booked $80,000 in business. Holy smokes. And I was like, Oh, this is going to be a thing. Like, talk about something that people are going to want. This is, this is going to be an important thing. But I didn't really like add I didn't like buying ads that didn't seem that interesting to me. I did really. I was pretty fascinated with how Google worked, and why some websites appeared there and others didn't, and just the whole algorithm. And so I started to get more into that, knowing that, okay, a lot of people are not many people at all know how to do this or have any idea, yeah, of what's coming to be honest, but I had a pretty good perspective at that point. And I was like, well, I need to build a head start, because people are going to there's going to be a lot of competition. But for the first couple years I was doing it, I had to, like, I told people what I did. I tried to explain SEO. SEO was not a term that anyone had heard of. Nobody believed No. Nobody believed me. Everybody thought I was a con man. Like, I help, I help. I get websites to the top of Google. And literally, people said, You can't do that. That's not a thing. That's not real. Oh my gosh. And, and I'm like, yeah, it is. You know, some people did believe me, like, like, like, the like, and they, they, they got the benefit. It's like, Mr. The $500 client. Yeah. So the people who did believe me and give me a chance, a lot of them are still working with me, to be honest, that's pretty great. Like, missed like $500 client, uh, still, he doesn't hire me to do his SEO, but he hires me to train his team. Now, wow, like, do the stuff that I used to do for him. Now, yes, yeah, yeah. I remember I, when I met him, I remember he had a restaurant, and he was trying to launch a, like, a events company. And he was that we were in the basement of his restaurant, which is, is as what you would imagine the basement of a restaurant looks like. And I was he, we were talking. It was He was, you know, he. Was the only person in his company, aside for the people working the restaurant, and I was the only person. And I kept saying, Oh, he would ask something, oh, we'll do this, and we'll do that. And he looked at me, and he's like, who's we? And I'm like, it's just me. I just saved me. And he was like, oh, yeah, I should do that too. Anyway, that's where, that's where I started with him, and so that was two, I don't know, 2004 ish. I, like I said, I tried to do SEO for a few years. In 2006 I incorporated my business. I had a handful of clients. I was doing pretty well getting a handle on the SEO thing. I actually incorporated, incorporated my business, like, a month after I met you,

Meredith: 26:59

I remembered you were saying. I never understood what it was that you did initially, people, my parents still have no idea. Yeah, my parents have no idea either, but, but it was I remember. I remember, like he does something with computers something, and he's incorporating, not knowing what that meant.

Meredith's Husband: 27:20

Yeah, that just meant I got a business. I was official business. I hired employee. I hired a, you know, a couple employees at that time. It's interesting now that I think about it, I I, I met you and incorporated my business within them within two months of each other. Those are two pretty big life events like both of those things are still going well. Knock

Meredith: 27:43

on wood. Yes, poo poo poo.

Meredith's Husband: 27:46

So spent the next few years doing my own SEO. So I got to a point, you know, within a couple years that if you did a search online for SEO in New York, or you look for an SEO company, or I was number one or number two, which was pretty good calling card, like I didn't need to do anything else. I never worried about getting clients. So I was getting all the business I needed that way. And then in 2000 I think 12, late, 2011 maybe two dozen, 12. Reuters business television did a little episode on one of my clients, which I thought was cool. Actually, the woman who did that spot said she just, she, she was hearing about SEO, and wanted to do a thing on this new thing called SEO and, like, new thing. It's been, like, I've been doing this eight years. Like, yeah, it's not a new thing. But to the to the mainstream, it was a new thing. So she have

Meredith: 28:43

been doing it, yeah, a long

Meredith's Husband: 28:44

time, long time. And so she said she just, she was at the Reuters offices, and she just asked around people, do you know who is good at SEO? And she said, my name came up from multiple people which I was. I was like, wow, that's really impressive. But anyway, so they did that. The following year, I did Gangbuster consulting work for small businesses. I had a lot of work that was probably to date, my best year as a consultant, working with small business like it was fantastic. And then I started going into working as a specialized consultant for other agencies, for bigger agencies, for marketing agencies who are working for like big national or international brands who they need an SEO person. They need an SEO strategy. And then I so I started doing that, and I kind of like that. I like that work because it's just pure work. I don't have to worry so much about the client relationship, because I'm basically a subcontractor. I don't have to worry about finding clients, the people who know me in the New York agency world, who, the people who I want to know me, know me. Yeah. So when they have a project that that would be I would be good for, they just call me and I do it. In fact, I don't even like right now, I don't even have a website like i My website is just one page. There's no contact information, there's no nothing, because I don't want to deal with like new the people who know me, who I want to have no me, know me. So

Meredith: 30:15

it's not just in New York. There are people all over, yeah, who call you directly,

Meredith's Husband: 30:21

right? Yeah, true, yeah. Actually, that's, that's right, yeah. That's very impressive. So so that that's kind of what I'm doing now. I do a little bit of work for clients who who I've been working with for years, like Mr. 500 right? I do work for agencies, but they're during covid, and this I we have talked about a little bit. I remember telling this story in sun, one of the episodes. Like you remember anything I've ever said. So I'm glad you do. I remember everything, unfortunately, mostly true, yeah, looking so, you know, and I had a year in lockdown where we were pretty slow work wise, all of us. And I remember thinking, just thinking back over the work I had done, and thinking, Oh, what am I going to do when I when this, when we get back to work? And remember thinking, Well, you know, some things over your work career, just. Stand out, yeah, like the clients who were miserable, or something that was really cool, or a big, you know, stuff like that. And I remember thinking the the one thing that was really cool was helping that friend of yours with her pet adoption website thing, yeah, which I did for no money. It was just like, just help, just helping her because she's a friend of yours, and I to this day, I remember that because she got so excited about this, the stuff we talked about, the ideas I was able to give her, and that was no money. And on the flip side was, like, one of my agency clients put me on a project that was a really decent sized project, and we delivered it, and the company said, like, this is great. We're actually not going to use it just but we needed to. We needed to spend our marketing budget the end of the year. This is really, it's really fantastic work, and we love it, but we're actually not going to do this. And I was like, Oh, shit, all that, you know, I made, I made a lot of money, and I did work I liked, but that feeling was really shitty that stuck out to me, to

Meredith: 32:16

feel you want to feel like you're doing something, at least for me. Back to me, yes, when people ask me what I do now, I say I photograph love, because that's the thing that started me being an actor, and now fulfills me as a photographer, it's love, yeah, for me, I mean, I know you're you're more business business, and I'm not business business, but I'm

Meredith's Husband: 32:45

more like, like, problem solving. Like, I really like one thing I remember I really liked as a kid is doing those little mind game. I love those. And to me, business is just like that. It's like, solve this puzzle. You can do it any, do it any way you need, but you need to solve it, right? Yeah. I love any, yeah. Anyway, so I didn't, so, you know, with that feeling, I was thinking, Oh, what, what can I do after covid, after we come out for my, you know, the remaining decade or or two of my professional life that I'm going to really enjoy and really feel, you know, get fulfillment from. What am I going to really like? And so at some point, I started thinking, Oh, photographers, like I know that doing your SEO, and then hearing the SEO advice that you were getting right from your from your classes, was pretty much terror. It was not good, like, and I remember thinking I was while I was in the office one day, we were back from from covid, and we were talking, you were not feeling well or something. For some reason, you're feeling underweight. And I thought, Oh, I'll call, I'll just call Meredith and check in. I'll, I'll be a good husband, and, you know, I'll do it even though I, you know, didn't really feel like it at the time. I'm like, oh gosh, I need to check it. So we were talking, and you were saying something about SEO, something you're learning in your in your one of your courses. And I was like, oh, that's garbage. I started, I started telling you why it was garbage, and just out of nowhere, I thought the this conversation that we're having right now would be really valuable to other photographers. And I said, Do you want to do a podcast with me? Yeah, just right out of the blue, yeah, without hesitation, you said yes. And they're like, oh

Meredith: 34:24

my god, it's been in front of me all this time, this years. Yeah, life has been doing this. And I get frustrated.

Meredith's Husband: 34:34

I just say that I like to solve problems, right? I like to create solutions. And there's this huge problem right in front of me that needs a solution. I'm like, That's stupid. So yeah, I said, you want to do a podcast? You said, yes, the next day Yeah, did as I called. We set up a Zoom meeting, recorded, I put it online. There was a podcast like it was one of the quickest things I've ever done in my life. Yes, without thinking at all,

Meredith: 35:02

I love it. That's like, improv, yeah, you just an opportunity comes and you're like, Sure, let's try it. What

Meredith's Husband: 35:10

Harmon in there? Yeah. And then I think we did like, three episodes or so. And I said, Can you put this just, you know, we didn't tell anybody about it. We just did it to see, like, is this gonna this work?

Meredith: 35:19

Yeah. Do we enjoy it? Like, yeah, right, right,

Meredith's Husband: 35:24

whatever. And then, and then I said, Can you just post this on like, one of your Facebook photography groups and say, and just ask people, Hey, is do you like this? Is this worthwhile? Is this something you would listen to, right? And the feedback was fantastic, really good. Thank

Meredith: 35:39

you. Who did that? It's yeah. We're now continuing this all because of you. Truly, thank you, right? Thank you. If there was no feedback, we would not be doing this,

Meredith's Husband: 35:52

right? If nobody responded, we would not have or if it was, like, boring. But that was that same feeling that that I had anyway, working with your friend, that was like, just just seeing, hearing people like, light up. I was like, Oh, that's

Meredith: 36:06

so important. I again, I feel this is from when I was doing the play. The Arabian Nights in Chicago. There was a long story short, a question was asked, What is the meaning of life? The answer was, to cultivate enthusiasm, and that's something I live by.

Meredith's Husband: 36:31

Yeah, that's a good one.

Meredith: 36:32

It's a great one. It's a really great one, very good one, because we need each other. We can, nobody can do anything alone. And we are humans. We need other humans. And there is such a joy in helping other humans and making them happy.

Meredith's Husband: 36:47

I agree. Oh, I knew we would get back to talking about Meredith. I acting, that's totally fine. It's

Meredith: 36:58

a you've Well, you have to bring it. It's a story.

Meredith's Husband: 37:01

Yes, call that exactly. Yeah. People All right, so that's, that's us. That's why, that's why you're listening to Meredith and her husband. Yeah, I hope this was where we come from. Boring

Meredith: 37:13

episode possible because there's no imagine

Meredith's Husband: 37:16

if this is the first episode that somebody listens to? Oh no,

Meredith: 37:19

everyone would turn it off. Like, what? Narcissistic? Yeah, fricks. All they do is talk about themselves. Argue, who can talk about themselves more?

Meredith's Husband: 37:33

Well, I hope, I hope some of you enjoy. Hope

Meredith: 37:35

this is interesting to anybody. If it is, please let us know. And if it isn't, we'll be sure to

Meredith's Husband: 37:40

talk about ourselves. Do that again. Yeah, we'll be back

Meredith: 37:45

to facts next time. Helpful. Facts, yes, so you can grow your business and feel good about yourself. Yes, until then,

Meredith's Husband: 37:52

bye, bye, everybody. Bye.